At a recent conference about Social Media discusses the pros and cons of User-Generated Content. As we all know, Zooppa is a community for creatives to learn and grow from each other. Freelancers have been around forever, but now we have a place to talk and form our own “outcast community”, so to speak. The fact is, you have to spend years interning shuffling papers or other meaningless stuff and never even get a hand in design unless your sleeping with the art director. Anyway, I’ll shut up and let you enjoy the fray we’ve created: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQu0292dftA
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Oh ya, I’d agree… i think “spec work” is dangerous. |
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haha, I just thought of this line of dialogue that makes this even more funny. |
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Neither of you have a clear picture of what is going on, do you? Do you think Zoopa is synonymous to an ad agency? A small hand full of people on zoopa are simi-professional hoping for that “big shot”.Others want to be professional yet have not gathered the experience yet to be even simi-professional. Then there is the majority here that are just the average Joe-Blow with an interest in art and video as a hobby.The voting system is by far the worst i have ever seen. Friends and family will vote for their friends and family regardless of the quality of the work. Add to the mix the usual ‘cry baby’s’ and those that ‘love to control others’ and you have quite a social forum eh? Which happens to be Zooopas motto. “Advertising Goes Social”. I suggest relax. Create your work. And try to have some fun with it. The fix is in, The votes are a free for all and maybe one person in a thousand will get that ‘big shot’. Maybe. catahoula |
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Actually, spec work has been around for many years, except you have no chance of getting paid…it’s called “Internships”...and you don’t do any creative…shuffle papers and blowjobs. Actually, the Super Bowl Doritos ad was done as “spec” work and it cost less than $2000 to make (and from a small town in Indiana by two unemployed guys)...and beat ALL the big ad agencies. There’s a paradigm shift going on as you said, but what places like Zooppa is finding out is that “creative” comes from an individual and not Madison Ave. So, I disagree PT. I’ve been working with Ad Agencies for many years, and frankly, it’s all smoke and mirrors. Granted, some “spec sites” are shit because they focus on the ads and not the community. But Zooppa is the only one that we can vote on the winner so “Power to the People!” |
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Quote:Actually, spec work has been around for many years, except you have no chance of getting paid…it’s called “Internships”...and you don’t do any creative…shuffle papers and blowjobs. Actually, the Super Bowl Doritos ad was done as “spec” work and it cost less than $2000 to make (and from a small town in Indiana by two unemployed guys)...and beat ALL the big ad agencies. There’s a paradigm shift going on as you said, but what places like Zooppa is finding out is that “creative” comes from an individual and not Madison Ave. So, I disagree PT. I’ve been working with Ad Agencies for many years, and frankly, it’s all smoke and mirrors. Granted, some “spec sites” are shit because they focus on the ads and not the community. But Zooppa is the only one that we can vote on the winner so “Power to the People!” . I love that example of the Doritos’s commercial. I actually celebrated when they caused all the fuss that they did… I’m not saying that spec work, in terms of Zooppa, is necessarily bad.. I’m just saying… it’s a VERY risky business venture. . . For instance, I own a video production company. There is no way I would risk losing my time, money, and materials on a project without some sort of commitment. Whether it’s seed money for a “proof-of-concept” or some sort of contract… I would need something… If you start doing work for free, other businesses and clients aren’t going to take you seriously.. and you’ll probably waste more time and money creating videos without any real profit… Spec work in that regard is dangerous… way too risky.. . . In regards to Zooppa and other video contest sites, it’s entirely based on spec work. Which is perfect for hobbyists, mom&pop shops, and other people that have the time and resources to create videos w/ little to no budgets… It’s fine.. Go ahead… I do it.. simply because it’s fun… . . Just in regard to spec work as a standard business practice.. it’s risky… that’s all i was saying |
